«Je vous ai proposé deux des thèmes principaux de ce que j’appellerais une épistémologie biologique.
D’abord, toute vie mentale est reliée au corps physique comme la différence, ou le contraste, est liée au statique et à l’uniforme.
Ensuite, j’ai soutenu que le regard posé sur le monde sous l’angle des choses est une distorsion entretenue par le langage, et qu’une vision correcte du monde doit se fonder sur les relations dynamiques qui contrôlent la croissance. [...]
Peut-être cela suffira-t-il à montrer que si on prenait au sérieux ce que je dis - et je le dis avec beaucoup de sérieux -, cela pourrait provoquer un changement presque total de notre façon de vivre, de la façon de concevoir nos vies, nos relations interpersonnelles et nous-mêmes. [...]
Évidemment, on peut enseigner l’histoire naturelle comme si c’était un sujet mort. Je sais cela, mais je crois aussi que la monstrueuse pathologie atomiste que l’on rencontre aux nivaux individuel, familial, national et international - la pathologie du mode de pensée erroné dans lequel nous vivons tous - ne pourra être corrigée, en fin de compte, que par l’extraordinaire découverte des relations qui font la beauté de la nature.»
Bateson Gregory, 1998. Une Unité sacrée - Quelques pas de plus vers une écologie de l’esprit, Seuil.
Keyword - difference
lundi 2 avril 2012
épistémologie biologique
Par Eric Collias le lundi 2 avril 2012, 10:00 - ecosophe
mercredi 9 juin 2010
Mental process 2
Par Eric Collias le mercredi 9 juin 2010, 10:14 - ecosophe
When this recognition of difference was put together with the clear understanding that Creatura was organized into circular trains of causation, like those that had been described by cybernetics, and that it was organized in multiple levels of logical typing, I had a series of ideas all working together to enable me to think systematically about mental process as differentiated from simple physical or mechanistic sequences, without thinking in terms of two separate "substances." My book Mind and Nature: A Necessary Unity combined these ideas with the recognition that mental process and biological evolution are necessarily alike in these Creatural characteristics.
Gregory Bateson, Angels Fear
Impacts and differences
Par Eric Collias le mercredi 9 juin 2010, 10:05 - ecosophe
Jung’s book [Seven Sermons to the Dead ] insisted upon the contrast between Pleroma, the crudely physical domain governed only by forces and impacts, and Creatura, the domain governed by distinctions and differences. It became abundantly clear that the two sets of concepts match and that there could be no maps in Pleroma, but only in Creatura. That which gets from territory to map is news of difference, and at that point I recognized that news of difference was a synonym for information.
Gregory Bateson, Angels Fear
Bad premises
Par Eric Collias le mercredi 9 juin 2010, 09:49 - ecosophe
I think that Descartes’ first epistemological steps – the separation of "mind" from "matter" and the cogito – established bad premises, perhaps ultimately lethal premises, for Epistemology, and I believe that Jung’s statement of connection between Pleroma and Creatura is a much healthier first step. Jung’s epistemology starts from comparison of difference – not from matter.
Gregory Bateson, Angels Fear
Gregory Bateson, Angels Fear
mardi 8 juin 2010
Mind
Par Eric Collias le mardi 8 juin 2010, 23:59 - ecosophe
1. A mind is an aggregate of interacting parts or components.
2. The interaction between parts of mind is triggered by difference.
3. Mental process requires collateral energy.
4. Mental process requires circular (or more complex) chains of determination.
5. In mental process, the effects of difference are to be regarded as transforms (i.e. coded versions) of events which preceded them.
6. The description and classification of these processes of transformation disclose a hierarchy of logical types immanent in the phenomena.7. In the mind, the information is unevenly distributed.
Gregory Bateson & Mary Catherine Bateson, Angels Fear
Mental Process
Par Eric Collias le mardi 8 juin 2010, 23:27 - ecosophe
In fact, wherever information – or comparison – is of the essence of our explanation, there, for me, is mental process. Information can be defined as a difference that makes a difference. A sensory end organ is a comparator, a device which responds to difference. Of course, the sensory end organ is material, but it is this responsiveness to difference that we shall use to distinguish its functioning as "mental." Similarly, the ink on this page is material, but the ink is not my thought. Even at the most elementary level, the ink is not signal or message. The difference between paper and ink is the signal.
Gregory Bateson & Mary Catherine Bateson, Angels Fear
Gregory Bateson & Mary Catherine Bateson, Angels Fear
